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Does setup.exe exist at the full path where windows is looking for it?
And if it does check and make sure that setup.exe and the folder it is in have Read/Write/Execute permissions set and hasn't been changed to ReadOnly by some security program.
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On page 92/93 it says size awg23 to awg19 for insulate ferrules and awg23 to awg16 for non-insulated ferrules. You're not using insulated ferrules on awg18 are you?
https://www.mitsubishifa.co.th/files/dl/jy997d61401h_FX5UC(Hardware).pdf
And if you happen to be using the European Style connectors then its awg22 to awg20 sizes.
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I second what @panic mode suggested in fact either of these could repalce it nicely.:
https://www.redlion.net/product/43-widescreen-hmi-2-serial-1-ethernet-usb-device
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@LuisGonzalez best advice I can give is take a class from twcontrols.com and pick the brain of @TimWilborne.
He went through the whole life cycle of a Plant maintenance person to a Panel Building Shop and Training Center Owner.
When he is of a mind to share, you'll learn alot.
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First I put your question into it's own topic rather than on a three year old post to hopefully attract more relevant attentions.
Second - I found this Mitsubishi Manual which talks about Modbus - https://www.mitsubishifa.co.th/files/dl/jy997d56101d_FX5(MODBUS%20Communication).pdf
Third - I found this Omron Manual which talks about MODBUS - https://assets.omron.eu/downloads/manual/en/v4/w506_nx_nj-series_cpu_unit_built-in_ethernet_ip_port_users_manual_en.pdf
Fourth - From what bare little I know of Modbus you'll first need to decide which PLC is master and which is slave. Then you'll map Native I/O of each to modbus registers and the modbus comms will transfer the data.
Beyond that it's time for you To RTFM and post your success or failure for others to guide you.
Good Luck!
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On 5/14/2023 at 9:28 PM, hugheydarryl said:We have been doing this for about 10 years using an Omron area scanner on some of our machines.
Any time I hear "That's the way we've always done it and it works" in the context of a Safety Discussion I get worried.
In the 1960's it was recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics that a solo parent and solo child in a car, both ride in the front seat, so the parents arm can restrain the child.
We all know better today and what worked 10 years ago, should be reviewed today to see if there is something better.
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8 hours ago, hugheydarryl said:I have a safety PLC program and cannot access the data from the regular PLC program. Is there a way to map the data from the PLC program to the safety program?
Take a look into this manual - https://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/rm/1756-rm093_-en-p.pdf - I believe the section on Standard Tags in Safety Routines (tag mapping) -- may accomplish what you're looking for.
BUT HEED THE WARNING, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INTEGRITY OF IMPORTED!!
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Here is one reason why "old timers" prefer all reads.
MSG READ TO PLC A FROM PLC B N7:0
Step 1 - PLC A sends to PLC B - "I need your N7:0 data please send it"
Step 2 - PLC B sends to PLC A - "Here is the N7:0 data you asked for and it's checksum"
Step 3 - PLC A validates checksum, if OK Read Done , Else Repeat at Step 1.
MSG WRITE TO PLC A FROM PLC B N7:0
Step 1 - PLC B sends to PLC A - "I wish to write my N7:0 data to you, are you ready?"
Step 2 - PLC A sends to PLC B - "I am ready to recive your N7:0 data, please sned it"
Step 3 - PLC B sends to PLC A - "Here it the N7:0 data I said I'd send and it's checksum"
Step 4 - PLC A sends to PLC B - "I have received the data and the checksum and the status is GOOD/BAD"
Step 5 - If PLC B recevies BAD CHecksum Status thenr epeat WRTIE, else END Write.
As you can see the READ needs only two set data packets per data message while the write requires 4 data packets per data set message.
ANECDOTAL DATA
I had an SLC 5/04 network using DH-485 to exchange data between four SLC 5/04 the DH-485 speed was 19,200 baud
To send an integer from A to B, increment by one in B and send it back to A took anywhere from 5-15 seconds using MSG WRITES.
Covnerted to MSG READS the timing went down to 1-3 seconds.
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On 4/26/2023 at 0:55 PM, evanmars said:Had to set the data type to integer instead of
unsigned integer.Apparently, I/O addresses are treated differently than memory addresses when doing bit shift operations.
https://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/app/answers/answer_view/a_id/25521
Thanks for posting the solution you found to work. So often a suggestion solves the issue, but we never get feedback.
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20 hours ago, evanmars said:i.e. In tag manager INPUT_WORD_1, type analog, max 65535, data type unsigned integer, device, ::[PLC]I:1.0
But when I run it, I get "Unable to connect to INPUT_WORD_1" (same for rest of the I/O).
I have others like ::[PLC]N142:13 that work fine.
I would suspect something is wrong in your tag manager definition of the I/O Points. I'd try type integer rather than type analog and also use address {plc]I:1 without the .o on the end.
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I am writing this because it is a lesson I just learned after 30+ years in automation and while I was using Intouch Wonderware 10 I am convinced it could have application to other platforms as well.
I received a trouble call that Application B wasn't working on Terminal X, but it worked fine on Terminals Y & Z. Also Application A would run on terminal X without issue.
I should Point out that both Application A & B connect through a data server to PLCs 1,2,3 & 4. But Application B also connects to PLCs 5 & 6 as well.
Turns out that an "improvement" project turned off PLC6 as it is being replaced by new PLCs 7 & 8. And it just so happens Application B was hammering the Data Servers with requests for points from PLC6. Since the application couldn't get data from PLC6 it hung at that point. Changing the Data Mode from Always connect to On Active connect let Application B work just fine.
Too bad it took me 2 hours of log snooping to find that one radio button could fix a "broken" application.
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16 hours ago, Really said:I accidentally removed one of my IP addresses in RSLinx which was used for a Panelview, when you right click on IP
address you get a four choices details,remove, configure driver, device properties and I hit remove. This removed
that IP address and I cannot get it back on, can you tell me how to get back.
You mention a Panelview so I must ask.
What model of Panelview?
You mention RSLinx but was it FTLinx Classic or FTLinx Enterprise? Each one behaves differently.
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RSlinx will need and EDS to know how to communicate with it/
The One here should work - https://www.anybus.com/technical-support/pages/files-and-documentation---compactcom?ordercode=AB6604
In Studio 5000 you'll either need to find an AOP for the device or use the Generic Ethernet Module and setup the Input and Output instances as defined in the EDS.
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On 4/10/2023 at 5:19 PM, pturmel said:except for being stuck with "walled garden" hypervisor vendor.
@pturmel Wasn't my choice , but the Almighty IT Gods have decreed we use Dell Servers and VMWare ESXI for virtual management.
"When the plan comes together, I love it. When it doesn't, Oh well that's life."
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I'm setting up a new Blade Server which will host five production Virtual Machines. This blade has eight 1 gigabit physical NICS available.
I had originally planned 1 physical NIC per VM, but then I read I can NIC Team between the Blade and Cisco Switch Uplink.
NIC Teaming would give the possibility a VM could use more than a 1 Gig data flow if needed and if in the rare instance of a cabling failure the remaining NICs would share the load.
This would seem like the best approach, but I'm asking if anyone has done this sort of thing with host blades?
For Reference VM1, VM2 and VM3 are all part of an Aveva HMI Galaxy so would probably share three NICS as a team setup.
VM4 is a Data Collector so I would give it two NICS.
VM5 is the Development and maintenance PC so I'd give it two NICS.
This would leave a spare NIC unused.
Am I totally crazy??
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Please clarify your question.
1. Do you want the PLC which controls the machine to hold it's startup until the user logs in on the HMI?
or
2. Do you want the HMI to remain on the login screen until a user logs in and only then go to further screens?
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14 hours ago, pturmel said:It definitely cannot use RIO. Nowhere in the docs does it show support for any PLC-5 devices. Just SLC and MicroLogix.
Not to disagree venerable @pturmel but using CCW version 13 it says I can setup the 2711C-T6T for Protocol = Ethernet | Allenbradley SLC/PLC and Controller Type = PLC5.
So while you can't do RIO it appears it will do ethernet to a PLC 5.
That Said @omar_zdn I don't have hardware or emulator to conduct proof of concept.
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3 hours ago, pturmel said:Open your factorytalk license admin package. Show everything in your current licenses page to Rockwell and they should be able to help you trace your license back to original.
To add to what pturmel said, check with your local Rockwell Distributor's Automation Support Specialist as well. They can guide you in how to approach Rockwell and get the Serial Numbers tranferred to you at your new company name.
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Do a cross reference on testbits.4 and testbits.5 .. My money is on them being used in more than 1 place. What I see doesn't match how the logic should work.
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Is this a new install?
If it is a failed unit you might want to consider Radwell or Rockwell for repair of yours.
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The Omron NA5 runs an embedded version of Windows 10 from what I can see, so you should be able to load the Cognex Insight Viewer Application {VisionView} and call it from a script.
We did this on Panelview Plus HMI with Insight 5800, but I've never tried it in the Omron HMi World.
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@Hot Rod welcome to the mrplc forum. I've moved your post from the AB Forum to Omron Forum as it is more about how to use an Omron piece of Software than anything Allen Bradley Rockwell. The Omron "experts" here will chime in with suggestions very shortly I am sure, but in the meantime let me ask the obvious. Do you have the manuals for the Micrologix and the NQB and have you tried what is suggested there. Trying something and posting your failure will get you more responses than just asking, "solve this for me"
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Not sure if it works with anything other than ROCKWELL, but you might want to check out WIN911.
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@robror_ I'll second the advice of Joe E and add If you've got spare ControlLogix Racks and Parts then a 1756-DHRIO Iand 1756-EN2T can make a gateway to connect ethernet to the SLC 5/04. DOne it , but now days there are cheaper solutions.
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Help with I/O wire installation for FX5UC PLC ...
in Mitsubishi
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Glad you found your answer and shared for others to learn as well.