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Proficy ME version 6.0 help, says this: ------------------------------------------------------ Error 8019: Ladder element does not have valid associated variable Possible cause #1 An LD instruction is present with no variable assigned to one of its operands. Solution for cause #1 Assign a variable to the LD instruction's operand. ---------------------------------------------------- Error 8693: EGD variable memory area is invalid [Exchange name] Possible causes The target does not support the memory area that a variable used on an Ethernet Global Data (EGD) exchange is mapped to. A BYTE variable used in EGD is mapped to non-discrete memory. Possible solution for either cause Follow these steps: In the Feedback Zone, double-click this error. The EGD Variable editor focuses on the row that contains the variable mapped to the unsupported memory area. In the row that has the focus, do one of the following: Double-click the Ref Address cell and map the variable to a valid reference address (memory area and memory index). A BYTE variable must be mapped to discrete memory. Caution: Remapping the variable may adversely impact the results of your logic everywhere it uses the variable or the reference address. - or - Double-click the Variable cell and select another variable for the EGD exchange. If you find no suitable variable, create a variable and then double-click the Variable cell to select it.

The rumor mill appears to be alive and well, although one of the residents seems to be a bit paranoid.

Okay then, you know that the cable works and what the Baud, Parity, Stop bits are, if WanderWhere still is lost, I would bet that the SNP ID is wrong or missing in WanderWhere.

I suggest that you verify the SNP ID, with wonderwhere you will need to use an SNP ID, LM90 does not need one. Also I think that each port on the 90-70 can be assigned its own ID. Are you using the RJ-11 or the 15pin-D port with LM90?

Either will work you just need the proper authorization through all the ports, routers and gateways, your IT department can help with that. I **HIGHLY** recommend Proficy Machine Edition though, as VersaPro has been discontinued years ago.

This may not help much but D-Lan is a proprietary protocol that ran on Arp-Net. There are not many (maybe none?) arp-net suppliers around any more.

You may also want to think about preventing the machine from starting or disabling outputs as it went into "auto" rather than shutting down everything mid stream, just to be "nice".

Try to upload just the hardware configuration, does this work? If the program was originally loaded with a version older than about LM 3.0 you may need to run it through an intermediate version first, like LogicMaster 4.0 or 5.0, I do not recall details on this but there was a change somewhere in that range of versions. A side note here: In the past I have been able to upload this type of project with Proficy ME, by getting first the Logic then the config. This was an earlier version of Proficy ME (Cimplicity ME 3.5) but it "should" still work. Of course you would be much better off using Proficy too. You could test this with the demo version, which you can get from your GE Fanuc supplier.

Sorry, but not enough information, which of the two ports on the IC200UDR005 will you be using and what is the model of the Proface?

Opinions differ widely, and this may change in 6 months, however right now I would rate inverters as: 1. ABB 2. Siemens 3. AB

With an IC697CPU771 you will need to purchase the upgrade as it consists of two PROM chips which are plugged into the CPU. Order Part number 44A731237-G07 (the -G07 is the latest in GFK-1066_90-70.xls and indicates Rev. 5.03) You should be able to order without the -Gxx and get the latest. You may want to look into updating your software also as it is now at version 5.90, about to release 6.00. When looking for technical information or manuals at the GE Fanuc web site please start here: www.gefanuc.com/support

A couple suggestions: 1. Update to Proficy ME 2. When you save the file in Excel be sure to select .csv as the Excel file type. 3. Don't delete or edit the .snf header information, or get rid of all of it. 4. Update to Proficy ME

And it takes about 4 times as much energy and twice the material in the manufacturing process.

If you purchase the "Conformal Coated" products from GE Fanuc you will not have moisture problems, they also have "extended temperature" products available in nearly all module types. The 90-30 has been around since 1990 and has a lot of options and ruggedness. You can check it out at www.gefanuc.com/support

If you are looking to enhance your internet performance, www.opendnc.com has helped mine, I have a cable connection with a company who has filed for chapter 11 and they are struggling. OpenDNS also gives you some additional blocking options. I have their DNS setup in my router.

The 23 & 28 point GE Fanuc VersaMax Micro's have a 15 pin RS-485 port, the 14 point units do not. All have RJ45 (Ethernet Style) RS-232 port. The 20, 40, and 64 point have an optional 2nd port. this may be empty or have either a USB, or RJ45 port that can be either RS-232, RS-485, or Ethernet. Confusing, but versatile. The only software that works with all of them is Proficy ME (Machine Edition).

Aren't PLC Lites called LED's?

You can program the GE Fanuc PAC with "C" if you want. www.gefanuc.com - for commercial information www.gefanuc.com/support - for technical information I recommend the RX3i for excellent cost:performance ratio.

First off the Cimplicity that you reference has nothing to do with a specific PLC, it is 'PLC Programming' or 'HMI' or 'SCADA' software, which do you have? What driver are you using if not PLC Programming and if you are programming a PLC then which one do you have? In the GE Fanuc PLC world the timers do not need a 'Done' bit if they have one it is assigned by the programmer so you will need documentation to know what it is. It 'may' be any valid discrete reference address so again we need to know which PLC to know what the valid addresses are. Sorry to confuse things but that's the way it is.

Thanks, for the lesson. LEARN something today so you can TEACH something tomorrow!

I am inclined to think that the ultimate system would be large - fast USB drives that held all needed development software and cheap disposable hardware that if need be could be replaced every month or two. We are getting close to this with the low end 'web' machines but the screens are too small. The other way would be to just plug your USB portable drive in the HMI, do your troubleshooting or programming, now don't forget the USB device when you are done.

I may be slow in response too with that much threatening and harassing. Do you have Quick Panels or Quick Panel View? Yes there is a difference. Are the comm's, Ethernet or serial and what protocol? Are you using the latest OPC drivers or Native drivers? What are the part numbers of your QuickPanels? What are the versions? What version of Proficy ME do you have? I suggest that if you had put just half of those 50 hours into learning how to use Proficy ME properly you would get to like the software and be very productive with it. Or maybe you did not have the right instructor? With the right information, someone just may be able to help save you some time and money?

"I recommend using only the 'Multipurpose' power supplies." Ok, any specific reason? Just in case you need to add one later. If you have a "standard" power supply you would need to replace it first. "If this involves Motion the new PAC Motion stuff is hard to beat, it insures no more than 1Ms update time for all axis, regardless of how many you add." It's very likely I'll have some servos, I'll have to look into the GE motion options some more. I see they have rack mounted and standalone servo controllers. The PAC Motion is the Rack mounted using the GE Fanuc red-end-cap digital servo motors and fiber optic communications. "User Defined Function Blocks can be a bit tricky but very powerful, learn how to use them." I agree, I used them for the first time on my last Omron project, definatly very handy. Omron has a decent library of function blocks, especially for motion. GE Fanuc has an excellent set of standard function blocks also, but the custom UDFB are a bit hard to find on the web. Be sure to start at the 'support' area in NA it is www.gefanuc.com/support Good luck, have fun with it and use the forum as a source of information that you can not quickly locate. R~

Well, we are even here as I have no experience with the AB PAC. People whom I have talked to compare the programming as very similar, a few differences: In the GE Fanuc world you are not forced to use 'symbolic variables' it is optional or mix them. GE Fanuc has a lot more RAM available, either 10Meg or 64Meg. GE Fanuc allows use of either the 'older' style 90-30 I/O modules or the newer PAC modules. I recommend using only the 'Multipurpose' power supplies. If this involves Motion the new PAC Motion stuff is hard to beat, it insures no more than 1Ms update time for all axis, regardless of how many you add. Timers and counters work differently than in the AB world, learn the difference. User Defined Function Blocks can be a bit tricky but very powerful, learn how to use them. Have fun with it.

I recommend putting a list together with every piece of hardware that you will need to troubleshoot or program and then get with your GE Fanuc rep or software supplier. Right now you should be able to get the "right" Proficy Machine Edition software to cover all but the very old hardware (Koyo). The trick is to purchase just what you need, there are a lot of options and that you should look at, including the age (version) of each CPU.