PanelView 550 won't play nice !

[bowler 0]

Good Afternoon from Indiana ! I am working with a 2711-K5A2 panelview and a SLC 5/03 - OS302. I have been unable to get these two items to work together. I am using the DH485 protocol and a 1747-pic/aic-driver with the C10 cable assembly. I can connect to the processor with the RS 232 Driver without any problem. For the connection to the panelview I am going from the PC to the panelview direct. The address for the panelview is node 02 baud 19200. The address for the processor is node 01 baud 19200. The address for the PC driver is node 00 baud 19200. There is one cable running from the panelview ( a C10 cable ) to the processor. The software is Panelbuilder 32. When you go to the download screen the panelview does not show up. Any idea on what I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance, bowler

[Guest]

I'm probably just misunderstanding you, but those two statements just don't seem to go together ... can you give us more detail? ... Edited 2 Aug 2008 by Ron Beaufort

[bowler 0]

Thanks Ron, The panelview is hooked up to the processor so it is getting its needed power supply. I am using the 1747 pic driver and the gray box with a C 10 cable. The SLC is hooked up to the panelview with a C 10 cable, the panelview is hooked up th the PC thru a C 10 cable and the gray 1747 pic box. When in Panelbuilder 32 during a download the panelview does not show up. I think I have the PB32 program configured properly. The address for the panelview is node 02 baud 19200. The address for the processor is node 01 baud 19200. The address for the PC driver is node 00 baud 19200. On the panelview the comm light will sometime be steady and other times it will be flashing. bowler

[Mickey 71]

I'm with Ron on trying to see how you have things connected,but one thing that does stick out is the above highlighted sentence. The PIC cannot get power from the PV (see PDF below for more info). Also the part about the PV power. Are you saying you are powering the PV thru the C10 cable? ( no can do) or are you using the AUX 24VDC power from the SLC? Does the PV turn-on? What do you see on the PV's screen? As you can see I'm confused. Also a link to the PV manual if you need it. http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/i...um014_-en-p.pdf PICPower.pdf Edited 3 Aug 2008 by Mickey

[JeffKiper 9]

Hello folk didn't AB have a AIC box that split the signals? I read about them once I think. Bowler where are you in Indiana?

[bowler 0]

Thanks Mickey, Here is my set up. The panelview has 120 volt power supply from Fuse 1. PanelView is PV550 Cat. No. 2711-K5A2 Ser. H FRN 4.41 Controller is SLC 5/03 Cat. No. 1747-L532 Ser. D Proc. Rev. 4 Controller Operating System 1747-OS302 Ser. B FRN 10 Lap top PC running Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 2 PanelBuilder32 Version 03.81.00 ( build 316 ). RSLogix 500 Version 7.00.00 ( build 19 ) RSLinx Classic Lite Revision 2.51.00.21 ( CPR7 ) Two ( 2 ) 1747-C10 Ser. B cables One ( 1 ) SLC 500 Personal Computer Interface Converter 1747-PIC Ser. A. PC is connected to 1747-PIC connected to cable 1747-C10, which hooks into the DH-485 programming connector on the panelview. The DH-485 communication port on the panelview is connected by cable 1747-C10 to the SLC 5/03. Just like the photo on page 195 of the panelview manual. Page 194 of the panelview manual also has this statement - Important The terminal must be connected to an SLC, DH-485 network, or power supply ( CAT. No. 1747-NP1 ). This connection provides power to the PIC. I believe that the cabling setup is correct. When on the Communication Setup screen of the panelview this is what it says, DH-485 Max Node 31 Node 2 Baud 19,200 Comm. LED Solid Fill Fault LED No Fill When in Panelbuilder32 application settings, here are the selections Selected Terminal: 2711-K5A2 PV550 Key, FRN 4.10-4.xx Type: PV550 Protocol: DH485 Comms. Setup selections for the terminal Node Add. 2 Max Node Add. 31 Baud 19,200 Network Nodes Node Name PPSHOP Node Add. 1 Node Type SLC 5/03-OS302 1747-PIC / AIC + Driver Settings Comm. Port : 1 Station No. : 00 Baud Rate : 19,200 Max Sta. No : 31 Configured Driver Description AB_PIC-1 DH485 sta:0COM1: RUNNING RSWho-1 only shows Workstation, WNA-PGH-6230 Linx Gateways, Ethernet AB_PIC-1, DH485 00, Workstation, RSI-PICW2K When we hook up to the 5/03 we use the RS-232 Cable 1747-CP3 Ser. A and driver RS-232 DF1 Devices here are the settings Comm port COM1 Device SLC-CH0/micro/panelview Baud 19,200 Station # 00 Parity None Error CK. BCC Stop Bit 1 Protocol Full Duplex Configured Driver Description AB_DF1-1 DH485 Sta:0 COM1: RUNNING RSWho-2 only shows Workstation, WNA-PGH-6230 Linx Gateways, Ethernet AB_DF1-1, DH-485 00, Workstation, DF1-COM1 01, SLC-5/03, PPSHOP Have not been able to get the panelview to show up yet If you need more info, let me know Thanks, bowler Edited 3 Aug 2008 by bowler

[Mickey 71]

Ok, thats pretty clear. The only thing that bothers me is RSWHO 1 and RSWHO 2. You cannot have two drivers trying to use the same port (Com 1) at the same time. Delete them both, restart RSLinx then only configure the 1747-PIC/AIC+ driver. If that doesn't work you can use the passthru capabilty of your SLC5/03. To do so delete the PIC driver go back to the DF1 driver (you said it worked) and connect your PC the your SLC then configued the SLC for passthru, see PDF below for how-to do this. Another option to program the PV is a memory card, see manual for this. 503_passthru.pdf

[Guest]

Greetings bowler ... unless I missed something, it looks like you haven't tried to communicate with JUST the SLC using JUST the PIC ... (looks like you've only tried using the 9-pin serial port for this) ... if so, put the PanelView aside for a few minutes and try making a connection just between the PC and the SLC - using only the PIC module ... reasoning: maybe there's something wrong with the PIC module ... the results of that experiment might tell us something ... note that on well-used PICs the ribbon cable has been known to give trouble ... sometimes just wiggling it into another position can make the magic happen ... I've seen units in the field where some enterprising individual has replaced the ribbon and its old-style 25-pin plug with a regular cable and a simpler 9-pin connector ... also check the 9-to-25-pin adapter if you're using one ... IF the PIC won't communicate with the DH-485 port on the SLC then the PIC is the probable culprit ... BUT ... also consider that the DH-485 port on the SLC MIGHT NOT be providing the power for the PIC ... that could cause the same "no communications" results ... Note to my distinguished friend Mickey: about that "power the PIC" thing ... http://forums.mrplc.com/index.php?s=&s...post&p=1667 so ... this little nuance can even trick up a highly-skilled and experienced forum administrator from time to time ... secret story: the only way that I originally learned about this was back in my "working-for-an-AB-distributor" days ... I came across one of those little NP1 "hang on the wall" power supplies in a desk drawer and wondered "what the heck is THIS thing?" ... some research showed me the answer ... a week later the phone rang and I was able to appear very knowledgeable to a confused customer who couldn't communicate with his DH-485 PanelView ... legends are made of stuff like this ... and PS to bowler ... those have to be the BEST set of notes I've ever seen on the forums ... well done ... and to Jeff ... I don't think that he has an AIC available ... Edited 3 Aug 2008 by Ron Beaufort

[Mickey 71]

Thanks Ron, I was aware of that, but once the OP made it clear how he had everything connect, it was clear he had his PIC powered. I did have the pages from the manual the OP made reference to ready to post if needed. I'l post it now for all that may be interested. K5K2Connections.pdf

[bowler 0]

Good Day To You ! Just a follow up for Ron and Mickey. I have the Application in the Panel View but I think the SLC 5/03 is going flaky. The green light on the DH485 port goes out and the PIC driver will not see the SLC or the panelview. I did get the PIC to hook up to the SLC after I changed from the DF1 driver Thanks for your Help !! bowler