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What is news? Relative.. It accommodate, do not I see need and motive. Exists, in my count 72 manufacturers of PLC, do an estimate to read the pages of manuals. The present advancement:: previous Comments, technologies news adaptation The revolution within the reach of: 01) What promises revolutionize the PLC would be the processing by EPLD, chips ALTERS and similar. These Chips: Saint capable units of processing of will be programmed like a representation físíc of logic. In structures logic (AND,OR,XOR), logical blocks (ADD, MUL, DIV,SHIFT...) program the chip, and at present we insert to logic it to be processing. Turned out not , SCAN-TIME microsegundes 02)New technologies you will help of control, as nets neural; coming it produce refined algorithms of control. The software revolution: Multi-plataformas: Only I know CADEPA from the Famic, a dream, only interface and program varied manufacturers, and conversion between plataforms. ..another but disappeared the web site. A group of programmers existed, that initiated development of software of this style, closed. S differences between PLCs exists, sufficiency classify the given important things to be able to mount a table of judgment. Difference that myself: PLC LG, capable of measure the width of the wrist (hardware circuit) of its entrances... exists another??? Happiness presenters and future

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RS Logix 500 or RS Logix 500 Start --- What diference "start"? In web site: Micrologix 1000 = Programing Rs Logix Start Micrologix 1200 = Programing Rs Logix 500 Micrologix 1500 = Programing RS Logix 500 For programing SCL500 and Micrologix, families sometime RS Logix to work. OK,yes? What suport RS Logix 5000 ? Is possible, table name software and PLC suports...

RS Logix 500 full functionality for Micrologix 1000.1200.1500 ? For new program development to Micrologix, to use "start". And RS Logix 500 not possible, "new development" (its memory clear,null) Is my knowing, correct?

PID - About this traditional control, can be common, but difficult find professionals and professors (masters) with complete answer. The manuals of controlers, they utilize, the range of manufacturers and definitions not standard, generates contradictions, becomes confused. Which the difference in the operation (behavior) : a)Adaptative; b)Seft-tunning; c)Auto-tunning; d)Dynamic; Gain alters: 1)For each value of SP one gain 2)Lineal distributed in range of SP 3)Variation of gain proportional the level of error. 4)Infixes in zones of SP, and others values between zones. (Exemple: SP=0%-40% K = value ; SP=41%-80% K=value * 1.3) ONE Questions: I find a short explanation, of as identify (differentiate) the PID a) b) c) d). And itself a) b) c) d) conection with 1)2)3)4), which relation. What types PID for figures? Line red = SP Line yellow= PV TWO Questions: And about ANTI WIND UP - Kind of situation should utilize this recurse? What know. As it implement the anti-wind-up, in a simple block PID ? Thanks help, for writes complete or part, and cited web page have it's. Edited last post 03, for quest. PID Comprensão e tipos controle e operação. PID - Sobre este tradicional controle, pode ser comum, mas difícil encontrar profissionais e professores com resposta completa. Os manuais de controladores, utilizam, a variedade de fabricantes e definições não padrão, gera contradições, torna confuso. Qual a diferença na operação (comportamento): Adaptativo; Seft-tunning; Auto-tunning;   Dinâmico; Gain altera: Para cada valor de SP um ganho diferente Linear distribuido na faixa de SP Variação de ganho proporcional a amplitude de erro. Ganho fixos em zonas de SP, e diferentes entre  zonas. (Exemple: SP=0%-40% K=y; SP=41%-80% K=y+n) Procuro uma explicação breve, de como identificar (diferenciar) os PID a)b)c)d) . E se a)b)c)d) interliga com 1)2)3)4), qual relação. E sobre ANTI  WIND UP - Que tipo de situação deve utilizar, este recurso? Como implementar o anti-wind-up, em um bloco PID simples ?

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What WEB page for request CDROM all manuals PLC's directs ? No find it page in AutomationDirect or necessarie send correspondence the request. If, exist limit area to send, my country in American Soulth, what to solve...

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It page, downloads samples. Have CDROM the samples? What page, cadastre to get the CDROM and others CDROM for programmer all AB PLC's. (Pages It receive data, to send American Soulth) Thanks the replys

Tranks! The page, that informed is not brought up to date in the time and confused.I get manual my language and enlhish, not clear. The Hardware OBA3: 4.4.15- Random generator 4.4.22- SoftKey When it use, in that situation applies? The SoftKey hold, sometime reset hand ? Yes? Understand exact operate.

The "new" hardware LOGO have after 0BA2 to end code product. (edit-add affter) The features the new hardware have: •Generator of Pulses Randomic - Which need where applies, know say because to Siemens get this function? •Key comfort - Which myself purpose of this, the name does not tell nothing. Other news features, i am aproved, good Micro PLC.

YES, panic mode it PLC's to start the project, it run one version machine (Mitsubishi it list predilete PLC features) I down know, it one fail project to year No problem, exact time SCAN, only some instants in that occurs simultaneous events the lag. You help! More advance programmer, i to study the problem in lithe vacation. [ If not fail in my works, what make in the vacation!?! ]

In determined machines, is necessary perform several actions, these related the position of the object. (Think of a quick mat, with several objects) The restraint that occurs is that normally has limited, the quick counter instructions number by to be associated the input. Normally, it needs barely an encoder to accompany the objects, however as store the position of each object inside the machine. The mathematical use of instructions, limits the speed. And more worse loses sincron. Which model of PLC I possessed instructions capable of defeat is limitation? Is able to tell about any manufacturer. Edit below: 1 Dezember 2003For better comprehension from the question, I describe the operation from the machine to that be possible the study of the problem and the difficulty of implement the solution 100% efficient. (No have software convert format GIF) CLICK HERE -MACHINE.BMP Purpose: Perform operations in pieces of woods, inserting lateral in the borders, wood sheet covering or tape of imitation of superficíe. Other operations, drill of surface and marking. Objective global: Synchronize them beaten of the tools, accompany the pieces in the time and journey and set in motion the tools in the exact instant from the operation. Objective of the PLC: Must be obtained synchronize the angles of beaten of the tools, in good exact time (future) in that will must liberated the operation from the tool. And in the instant, when the point of marking from the piece, be evident below the tool activate. The tools A and B they are mechanics, and defendants magnetized and with control of sweater closed for synchronize. Characteristics: Crazy to 12000 RPM, cycle of strike to each 60/12000 = 5ms. the nucleus is free to strike. Mesh closed: I Possessed a sensor of marking, active 120º used for control of the synchronize. It utilizes an I brake magnetic to delay the turn, and synchronize the turn in the angle/time in function of the markings (captured - you mark) in the piece. Components: Encoder- Of simple phase 1,8º Generates the reference of position for everybody pieces in the mat. S1-Sensor of reading from the piece: Used to capture the crevices, the beginning and end, in the piece. S2-Sensor of reading from the ink of pen: Capture the line of marking. It utilizes to control the tool B. 1ºmark: 1º Point of drill 2ºmark defined the second point of drill and the distance between the marks will be the space for next holes. Tool A- Sheet of cut from the tape of border. Possess both sides. Tool B - Drill of surface, elemina an area circulate in the surface for the head of the bolt. Tool C - Stamp, performs to write in the superficie from the piece. It possesses an I brake magnetic to position in the in the angle of zero. Mat - Speed from 6 to 10 m/s The intention of this POST, is not that someone supply the solution, algorithm. (But he is not repressed this act) YES. he discuss in terms of hardware and assembly of instructions, existing or applied the situation describe. Independent of brand. Point of sight: THE difficulty is in synchronize everybody operations. Even determined cycles, be possible, re-calculate the position from the piece, perform the position mathematics operations, transfer records, maintain the sweaters of the sweaters of the tools synchronized. Despite of the necessary, skillful time to perform everybody operations before of the actions depends on the speed from the mat and distance between the pieces, is not a grave limitation. It occurs, the intersection of the events, or the proximity of set in motion the tools, grasp and bring up to date the records. To to put upon priorities, kill an event or do not obtain answer in the exact moment. To my critic, is about the PLC' s, not hardware with appropriate assembly of instructions for an execution exists to work in high speed: 1)Instrutions, movement of facts, mathematical operations in high speed or processing isolated, parallel 2)Operators of displacement, resfresh instâtaneo (output). 2.1)Verifies, the partial existence of these instructions, the combination cannot be implemented by written restraints in the manuals or sights in the practice. 3) or efficient meanses of synchronize the SCAN of the equipment with events, of way of grasp and answer in a window of time "known" of an event. 4) Clocks in the order of milisegundes or tenth, with stability and way of synchronize. Everybody point of sight or knowledge that contrary to them declared, affirmative or negative is accepted. Like this, as I do not know it's PLC large-scale, if capable of the solution, describes.

OK ! Get solution and test pratical very solution. FA-M3R Yokogawa The compact PLC and very fast, it possible write instrutions and interruptions to syncronize all tools. One problem, price and medium PLC, no have similar lithe PLC brand? http://www.yokogawa.com/cms/com/ep/program...channelId=-9731

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In a systems, barely necessary collect and record the readings. It intends utilize software SCADA. I ask, module exists you INPUTS sometime, without programming, with inputs analogic and sensors temperature? (NOT PLC) What this work (more economic )

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Certain, that MYSELF need improve the writing "Harmonize the personal interests to the collectives". I lament do not write of clear form, but the professional interest is bigger as regards restraint of the language. Therefore, a help welcome, send a message private which way mount the phrases gives birth to that be understood Please sweats comprehension, Panic do not increase more restraints. Not talk the PLC, by I fear of limit the post in terms of manufacturer and participants, and also associate to idea that these do not they be capable from the solution, being perhaps possible of resolve. Summary: THE PLC capable run the cycle. However, only some instants in that occurs simultaneous events, that are lost (done not actions or delayed) To grasp, the situation follow the cycle from the machine, and think, imagines, when more of a piece, they will be in the exact position and individually the actions should be carried out. Do not I know all of the PLC, neither even the new software, perhaps exist a form of program. ... Do not I want to bother the members (sic Admin) therefore write here only replys. It doubts, understand send Message Private

YES, EXACT, I ask as winning the limitations. Or which equipments can dominate the situation. Because I don't know all equipments. Always when I write, I have intention of describing the operation and operation of the equipment. For same who doesn't know the answer, to know situation and think,a respect. Same who doesn't have enough knowledge, it will take advantage something. Of here some days, those that think can discover the reply,more participations would facilitate in the construction of the answer... Best would be the use of this place, because older professionals exist and of several sections, expose the knowledge. (to write) All would learn, what would be impossible in the reality of the time and of the life. The sincere considerations of

Well coming, good attitude in ask in this forum. I expect that acquire the habit that think and question before of do, is the necessary quality to all programmer, like this will trust in itself even. The function FOR/NEXT, is not advised utilize in the control, private I utilize for handling of facts, information, comparison of facts and ordering, rarely in the command of actions. Because!? It can freeze the program, if pass from the team of WatchDog and does not accept timers internal. I understood: That several set in motion valves, by a interval and duration defined by a selector. . Adequate solutions: 01-It utilize a sequenciator, where a Timer 1 triger a counter, and the acumulator of the counter will be the index of the sequenciator. Before of reset the Timer 1, is able to set in motion the Timer 2 that defined a pause. In the Mitsubishi, the instruction sequenciator is Master Control (MC and MCR) metod binary: Utilize timers that trigger/ command the instrution main, cited to short. 02-Mathematical operations: Utilize intrutions of sum or multiplication. And move the result for the start of a Byte in the area of memory of contacts (M0,M8...) And it utilize associate or combine the M respective, to command the outputs. 03-Operations of movement: Utilize the functions of Shift (FNC-34-35)ou rotate (FNC 32-33) and associate or combine the M respective for commads the outputs. As it utilize the FX0, only the 01 is applied, the too they are you applied in complex or flexible situations that have configurations, or dynamic with change of sequence. Good results and practical .

I expect coments ,ideia, to add's this post. The my application and situations. FIFO [Firts-in-Firts-out] - can exist matrix of 1 or more dimension (Says, elements that can be parameters: width, length, weight, etc.) Situations: A) Always in a system, that enters an object, is worked, and I left in the end from the line, where not the possibility of discard from the line. B) When needs accumulate pieces, that are captured by be not inside the parameters required in the moment. (Acumulador vertical) Application: A) Wood- Measures thickness and length in him I initiate, and in the end prints label with the measures. B) warehouse- Where guard objects, and entrance /exit by the same extremity. SHIFT- can have 2n bits, rotating for left or right. Situations: Store busy/free positions, and accompany displacements. Application: A) machine, where the sensor grasps the object in the entrance, and this enters in the carrosel. Being able to otimize the operation, eliminating actions for free positions. B) accompaniments of products: b1)Can have an operation fails (Ex: Fails, in the placement from the cover) b2)They should be ignored, and follow for the line do not receive operations. b3)Object peculiar, that needs combination of actions peculiar. ROTATE - Always (Certain!?) of entire number of Bytes, crazy for left or right. Situations - Someone is able to he tell by me??? Application: Only I utilized, in a machine tool. Where 2 existed circles and in the perimeter the tools. The circles of position intersetion of the internal perimeter, and overlapping So that rotation in an each position I circulate, combined the tools to a rotation/torque and way of rotate. I consider , these important instructions and a salvation for situations complicated (not complex), knowing and imagining combinations, overlapping , obtains creative results, and quick. I cite, a machine for operations in pieces of wood, that cuts, sandpapers, penetrates and border the tips for sizes and agreed, peculiar kinds of pieces that traverses in the mat. Intercalate FIFO, SHIFT and SEQUENCIATOR, without think a lot, the machine functioned in 2:30h-3h, I left I laugh, very satisfied stayed that I went although say concluded in the following day. I expect that the considerations of the colleagues, and application that will utilize these instructions. Important: THE instruction FIFO: should add interlock, for that in the same SCAN not the trigger occur of input & output.

Costly colleague this this is a dilemma. It is situation, to my knowledge, exists a restraints to implement. The PLCs do not they possess adequate resorts to treat information in high speed, you are not the the only one. Motive to which awoke interest in open this post. FX0N not has FNC 63 -Incremental Drum Sequence you go ideal instruction. I will not supply a logical solution therefore the that MYSELF possess for this case, would operate in function of the time of SCAN. Case the smaller time of answer, action from the machine be more less than the SCAN, not applies-itself. The correct one, apply the trigger in the INPUTS X0, X1,X2, X3 and utilize a counter for each valve. If stayed, bothered, do not concern. I believe that this situations are the motivate, I expect that programmer best know, come support and we will be able to build the solution.