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  1. NX102 SSI encoder problem

    hi have a good time i have a nx102-1200 and a nx-ecs212 module. I connected an SSI encoder to the card and read the position value in the software. The encoder counts 360 pulses in each round and then it goes to zero. I want to use GearIn function and have the encoder as the master and a servo motor as the slave. In each revolution, the encoder pulse becomes zero, and as a result, the servo motor movement is not continuous!!! I want the servo motor to be continuous! In fact, I don't want the encoder pulse to zero every time. What should I do? Is there a solution? please help me thank you so much
  2. We are working with two VFDs FR-A820 Series, each of them driving a motor that obey a master-slave relationship. One of them is in speed control, while the other is in torque control. Each of the VFDs has one of the Mitsubishi FR-A8AP encoder reading cards that collect the data from an Avtron A56 encoder. While testing our system it came our realization that, if one measures the resistance across the terminals of the encoder cards mounted on the VFD these are not the same. Concretely, this is the reading we get: (see attached)   We noticed that this difference in the resistance causes a voltage drop in the encoder signal when looked over a oscilloscope. We are surprised that this resistance is different: a) between the cards, b) between the terminals A and B in the VFD. We wanted to ask: Is this behavior expected? Should the resistances in both cases be different? Is this something we should be concerned about? So far our application works and our motor turns as they should, but we are quite surprised that this is the case.
  3. Hello Guys, I have a Mitsubishi A8000 series vfd with an encoder card and also encoder. With analog (0-10V) signal i can read back the current speed. The conveyor convey paper sheets. Occasionally they change the width of the paper but the the two type of paper is connected. We have a camera on the begging of the conveyor, and we would like to lets say cut it 2 meter later. But the position should be very precise otherwise we are not cut it in the good position. The cutting procedure would happen also an asynchronous motor or with servo motor.  Is it possible to write a tracking program and cut paper sheet in a good position ? My plane is to stop the CV in the position and waiting for the cut and go on.  The plc is Allen Bradley, control logix 5580. Any tip would be appreciated. Thank you so much. 
  4. Positioning and speed control

    Hello Guys. Is it possible to use an fr-a840 to use in the same time positioning control and also in speed control mode ? In the moment the vfd is in speed control mode. But now i also have to need to stop the conveyor in certain position. It will be a new feature. If its not possible, do i need a hsc ?  The speed of the conveyor is 20 m/min and the accuracy should be within 3 mm.  Could anybody help me with this.  Thanks ahead.
  5. Positioning and speed control

    Hello Guys. Is it possible to use an fr-a840 to use in the same time positioning control and also in speed control mode ? In the moment the vfd is in speed control mode. But now i also have to need to stop the conveyor in certain position. It will be a new feature. If its not possible, do i need a hsc ?  The speed of the conveyor is 20 m/min and the accuracy should be within 3 mm.  Could anybody help me with this.  Thanks ahead.
  6. Encoder position with vfd

    Hello guys.  I have a question, i have a mistubishi fr-a800 vfd with an encoder option card. On the motor we have an encoder.  I can read back the speed with the plc with analog signal. But can i use also for, tracking the distance ? Can i set anyhow the inverter lets say after one round on the encder send some digital signal to the plc. Is there any chance to set it ?  Lets say this is a conveyor, in this case its better if i put an encoder/counter on the conveyor and it will be directly connected to the plc.  Thanks ahead
  7. Does anyone know how to change the reading on Omron servo motor reading from negative to positive? The encoder is reading negative values when it is moving in the forward direction.  I am using 1S servo on NX1P2 controller on Sysmac studio software.  Please suggest. 
  8. Hey group! I am working on a project that has a machine that forms cartons that will drop the cartons into a cleated conveyor after they are formed. The forming machine needs to be synchronized with the cleated conveyor so that the formed cartons will drop in between the cleats as they pass under the forming machine. So, in essence, the conveyor will be the master and the forming machine will be a slave to the conveyor and match its position accordingly. Initially, it was proposed that the conveyor utilize a CIP encoder so it could be set up as a motion axis, but the customer declined that option as they didn't care for using CIP encoders (can't really blame them!). So, a slightly cruder proposal of using two 1024 count encoders was proposed, which they accepted. However, your friendly programmer here isn't quite sure how to make that work! I think the basic concept is encoder following but but I can't seem to find anything online that really describes the actual process or logic for this. The RA Sample Code site doesn't seem to have anything on there but maybe I just haven't entered the right search keywords. The forming machine has the following notable components: 5069-L310ER 5069-HSC2xOB4 PowerFlex 525 drive 1024 count incremental encoder As noted, the idea is to have a 1024 count encoder mounted on the conveyor with some sort of ratio so that the counts will run the pitch of the cleats 508 mm). Some trickery will have to worked in to get them to sync at the right time but for the time being, I'm just looking for a method to do the encoder following and asking the group if anyone has some ideas, or better yet, a method, of how to accomplish that.
  9. Encoder for fx1n

    Hi all! How can I use two AB phase encoder at the same time. I use Mitsubishi FX1N PLC, and I would like to use a high speed counter. I think the plc has 6 high speed counter input, but I cant use only one at same time.
  10. Hi, I have to implement an axis control in a NX1P2 PLC using an inverter (3G3MX2) and an encoder cabled on a EC0122 board. I found something similar implemented  on a CJ2M PLC, but I have no idea how to set up the axis in the configuration of sysmac studio and how to implement the control. Can someone help me? Some sample to catch out the configuration?   Thanks a lot Andrea
  11. connect encoder to nx1p2

    hi everyone i have a question about nx ec0122 i connected an encoder to ec0122. now i want creat a programm for read the pulse and reset pulse. Then write a program to measure the length of a roll. How should I do this? Thank you for your help
  12. Hi All, I just take over a project which involve accurate positioning and movement up to 0.010mm(around 10 microns) of a servo motor. I found out that my motor always move to an incorrect position. Let's say I want it to move to absolute position of 5.210mm, I found out that it may move more till 5.235 or move less 5.190(something like that). So i start to check if I'm outputting correct pulse. Using CX-Drive, I connect to the driver then i found out that the pulse is correct and consistent(for example i use my pulse per revolution and pitch to determine how many pulses) Currently I'm using an incremental encoder and servo motor and my PLC cycle time is around 12 ms and my servo move at a speed of 0.66mm/s. So I was wondering if my PLC scan time will affect my accuracy in moving ?? I'm using a CJ2M PLC with CJ1W-NC413 pulse card , incremental encoder and a servo motor. I want to make sure is not software limitation or anything wrong on software side before I bring it to my mechanical team   Appreciate all inputs here and thanks!
  13. Crane Positioning

    Hey folksI'm trying to make a Ladder program in Sysmac Studio to control a Crane.The crane gets via a HMI a position that it must drive to, first at high speed then in low speed this is controlled via encoder signal for fine positioning there are several sensors.For all this I have an NX1P2-9B24DT1, NX-EC0222 and 3G3MX2-A4030-ESomeone here who can help me with an example of how this can be done in Ladder.Many thanks in advance for your help.
  14. Hello There, Hope you are safe and Healthy. I am using Omon "CP1L-EM40DT1D" PLC controller for a cut-to-length type of application. for the measurement of length, I am using an inbuilt high-speed counter 0.   Now the problem, when the status of PLC changes from Power off to Power On the high-speed counter starts from 0. How to hold the pulse value of HSC0 at power restart ?    (I am using Differential Rotary Encoder, not absolute)
  15. NX1P2 Motion Control

    Hi:       I need to change an old PLC  with NX1p2  to control 3 servo motor by means of Analog Outputs couple with encoders, My job is to change the PLC only. So the servo drives and drivers are untouchable (No budget and involve too much mechanical works).   I observed that Sysmac Sttudio Axes setting has this: Servo Axes, Encoder axes, Virtual Servo Axis and Virtual Encoder Axes.   I believe the Encoder Axes couple with Analog Output is able to to do the Job? If so, what function block should i use? If no, do any body have a suggestion of any function block i can use? Thanks  
  16. Hi:         I am planning to use NX with Encoder Card  couple with Omron Rotary Encoder for measuring product length. ( GX-EC0211 /EC0241) or may be (NX-EC0112, I read there is proble with this card , here https://forums.mrplc.com/index.php?/topic/34896-problem-pulse-reading-with-fast-counter-card-in-nx2/ ), but whatever it is I need to know is there any specific Instruction in Sysmac Studio that is tailored for Fast Counter or Encoder (something Like PRV in CX Programmer or special function in CJ-CT021 where start/stop counter and changeable preset counter are available).  The Length measurement is straight forward and is only a small part of the overall program.  Basically is Start ---> measure to length----> Cut --->Repeat again.  I read through the Instruction Reference Manual and I am unable to find one.   Anyone have any idea or any sample program (Sysmac Studio only ) that I can refer to ?    Thanks     
  17. Hi everyone, I have an annoying fault on my Kinetix 5700 drive: M01-Safety Feedback. I know this fault is generated by  the SFX instruction in my Safety program that sets tag: "Axis.SFXFault" to 1. The problem is that the instruction is NOT in Fault (Fault code 1 = no fault). This error occurred after Safety encoder 843ES lost it's IP address. I used Bootp to set it gain. And reset the SFX instruction. I can see the encoder in studio 5000 rev 32.12 running and ok.  Does anyone encountered this problem? How can I clear the fault?   Thanks
  18. I have a machine with NJ501-1400 controller. I have some NX-ECS212 SSI encoder input cards. I use Encoder axis with that SSI encoders. I need to change the encoder axis value with the real value of the machine. I tried to use "MC_HomeWithParameter" instruction but I cannot do it because must'nt be used with encoder axis. If I put it at a virtual encoder axis I cannot change actual axis position. I tried to use "MC_SetPosition" instruction but it isnt retentive area and when I lost power I lost reference value too. How can I do it? Thanks! Josep Torres.
  19. How to connect + Program wire encoder

    Hi all, I am not a PLC expert but can find my way within the program and would like to develop much more. For work (We sell industrial bandsaws) we have purchased a Posital Fraba wire encoder, and we would like to hook it up to our Mitsubishi FX3G PLCs to measure at what height the saw bow of the bandsaw is at that moment. Unfortunately I have little experience with connecting these things, as other encoders used in our machines are pre-installed by our factory. Below is described what functions the wires have. What I thought was the following: Pin 1 goes to an input of the PLC Pin 2 goes to + (or 24V) Pin 3 doesn't go to "Ground" as they describe, but instead to - (or 0V), which is technically ground Pin 4 and 5 we don't use, correct me if I am wrong. The saw bow goes up and down only, and I thought we don't need to use these wires.   I connected it like this, connected wire 1 to X0 on PLC and just to test I made the program read:   M8000 ------------------------------ C235 k99999   But the value stays 0, whether I pull the wire or not. So something is wrong, but what, I really can't figure out. Hope someone can help!  
  20. Hello Everyone, I am struggling with interfacing Incremental encoder with FX5U PLC, Does anyone have parameter setting and sample program for same. i am unable to fetch counts...   Encoder: 500ppr, 24V line drive, A-B phase,  PFA datasheet
  21. Hello guys, I am running an application for packaging measurement using a sick DFS60B incremental encoder (programmable from 1 to 10000 PPR). In more detail, it passes packaging on a conveyor belt and we have created an inspection station and an expulsion station (defective packaging), so we use the encoder to check at specific points of the packaging for defects (we use special sensors to check defects). ) (there are four in total). However, the problem we are having is the following: When reading the encoder in the PLC, the same means that performs "jumps" and does not enter the windows (GRT and LES) created on the ladder, ie, as if it were not continuous. . I understand that because the VHSC24 card works at 1 MHz in counter mode, this type of problem should not occur according to our application is not even 100 KHz. For example, our case: Using 1000 PPR and the motor speed (coupling output) is 3600 RPM (in practice it is around 1750 RPM) the frequency is calculated as follows: F = (PPR X RPM) / 60. : F = (1000x3600) / 60 = 60 KHz, ie 60 KHz is much less than 1 MHz, I think this kind of problem does not occur. Application Info: . Studio 5000 V31 . PLC Model: Rockwell 1769 - L19ER-BB1B CompactLogix 5370 . Encoder Card: 1734-VHSC24 / C . Incremental Encoder: Sick, DFS60 up to 10,000 PPR and HTL Electrical Interface. Using a 200 mm circumference / perimeter wheel. . Motor Nameplate Data: 1670 RPM, 0.37 kW / 0.5 HP, 60 Hz . Inverter: Weg CFW500, Output Frequency 62 Hz. Card Settings we use RPI: 2 ms Type: Counter, but we already use it as Encoder X1 Store Count Mode: Disabled Filter: No Filter, but we use 50 KHz and 5 Khz filters in our tests. Counter Attenuator: 1 Wiring Diagram VHSC24 We turn on encoder A at input 0 and encoder Aret at input 1 In logic (Structured Text) Using the PMUL instruction to convert encoder (Pulse) data to mm scale. (Ladder) The window comparisons part (GRT and Les) and other part of the process. We emphasize that we performed the tests also only with the reading and comparison part of the data, excluding the other parts, precisely to verify the issue of Scan, but the problem persisted. If anyone here in the forum has some information that can help us, I would appreciate it.
  22. Trying connect baumer EAL 580... Ethhercat absolute encoder with Beckhoff C6015. Ethercat connection is From PLC to EL6695 module(This module is connected to KUKA robot for mater to master communication) and from Out port of EL6695 to In port of Baumer Encoder. It is not getting scanned nor manually appended. But when i connect it directly to PLC it works fine(gets scanned). Any solution?
  23. Hi all, I am taking a Kubler draw wire encoder back to a 1734-VHSC24 and having a little bit of an issue with the rollover.  With the draw wire untouched the output value seems to be fluctuating over time and appears to be drifting backwards to the rollover value making our distance measurements completely useless.  Does anyone have any insight as to why that might be?
  24. Hi, I can’t find an answer to the following and I was advised to ask it here.I’m programming an Omron CJ2M with an MD212 high speed I/O card. I usually do all my programming in Structured text, simply because I like it a lot over ladder or sft.Now, if I want to read the hight speed counter (incremental encoder), I have to make a ladder section and use the PRV instruction to store the present value in a chosen location.The manual says the current PV is stored in A271, but I can’t get a readout there. Apparently the only way to read it is through this instruction.Does anyone know if there is an equivalent to the PRV instruction for Structured text? or another way perhaps? Again, when I check the actual memory adress, there’s no value there withouth the use of the PRV instr.
  25. s7 214

    Dear All ,  I need to connect two encoder to S7 214 PLC  any one have information about 1-If it applicable to connect encoder  2-How adjust it on S/W and H/W to work good  thanks in advance