A-B announced yesterday to its distributors that the MicroLogix 1100 release will once again be delayed until August. This time it was a production scheduling issue and not a technical one.
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A-B announced yesterday to its distributors that the MicroLogix 1100 release will once again be delayed until August. This time it was a production scheduling issue and not a technical one.
And what is ML1100, actually?
Thats somewhere between a Micrologix 1000 & Micrologix 1200, or a fraction of the power of a Mitsubishi FX2N. 
It's a Micrologix that you can do ONLINE programming. And uses the same modules as the 1500 for expansion.
AB did this to compete with other PLCs like Direct Logic PLC etc...
I think they just killed their Compact Logix product line by introducing this, but then again. THANK GOD for competition!
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Also, the firm's new A-B MicroLogix 1100 controllers will be available in March 2005, and will feature online editing functionality, an embedded high-speed counter, high-speed PTO/PWM output, embedded analog, embedded LCD for I/O -and controller status, and a simple operator interface for messages and bit/integer input.
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AB did this to compete with other PLCs like Direct Logic PLC etc...
I think they just killed their Compact Logix product line by introducing this, but then again. THANK GOD for competition!
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Also, the firm's new A-B MicroLogix 1100 controllers will be available in March 2005, and will feature online editing functionality, an embedded high-speed counter, high-speed PTO/PWM output, embedded analog, embedded LCD for I/O -and controller status, and a simple operator interface for messages and bit/integer input.
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| QUOTE (chakorules @ May 20 2005, 06:38 PM) |
| I think they just killed their Compact Logix product line by introducing this, but then again. THANK GOD for competition! |
The CompactLogix uses the ControlLogix architecture and RSLogix 5000 to program it. The ControlLogix family is is a completely different family and I don't see the two competing, IMHO of course.
Got this from my local AB rep., may or maynot be factual.
1. There are new instructions that allow information about I/O and networking to be displayed on the LCD. Requires ver. 6.4 of RSLogix 500 (on-line editing is supported also), there are also 3 buttons on the base unit that allow you to change data. Kind of like the PICO's.
2. Channel 0 provides isolated RS-232 & DH-485 but no longer supports 24VDC comms power. Supports same protocols as ML1200 and 1500. A new cable allows direct support of DH-485.
3. Channel 1 provides embedded RJ45 port that supports Ethernet/IP, and has an embedded web server.
4. Base unit has 10 digital inputs and 6 relay or 24VDC FET outputs. 2 0-10vdc analog inputs, don't know the resolution, could be 12 bit, may be 15 or 16.
5. You can add up to 4 ML1200 style expansion modules, don't know if there are power restrictions like the ML1200 has or not.
6. Comes with 4k user program memory and 4k user data memory and also includes up to 128k bytes of memory that can be used for data logging, and a real time clock.
Price is rumored to be in the $550-$600 range.
1. There are new instructions that allow information about I/O and networking to be displayed on the LCD. Requires ver. 6.4 of RSLogix 500 (on-line editing is supported also), there are also 3 buttons on the base unit that allow you to change data. Kind of like the PICO's.
2. Channel 0 provides isolated RS-232 & DH-485 but no longer supports 24VDC comms power. Supports same protocols as ML1200 and 1500. A new cable allows direct support of DH-485.
3. Channel 1 provides embedded RJ45 port that supports Ethernet/IP, and has an embedded web server.
4. Base unit has 10 digital inputs and 6 relay or 24VDC FET outputs. 2 0-10vdc analog inputs, don't know the resolution, could be 12 bit, may be 15 or 16.
5. You can add up to 4 ML1200 style expansion modules, don't know if there are power restrictions like the ML1200 has or not.
6. Comes with 4k user program memory and 4k user data memory and also includes up to 128k bytes of memory that can be used for data logging, and a real time clock.
Price is rumored to be in the $550-$600 range.
| QUOTE (jstolaruk @ May 20 2005, 09:45 PM) | ||
The CompactLogix uses the ControlLogix architecture and RSLogix 5000 to program it. The ControlLogix family is is a completely different family and I don't see the two competing, IMHO of course. |
From my perspective. We don't use the ControlLogix platform all that much. But we have a higher need for online programming. We were going to upgrade all of our software to RS 5000 and convert over to the controllogix platform so we could start using compact logix and get online programming.
At this point, we will do away with RS 500. We don't want to support two different families. It 's easier to stick with one and support it. Needless to say, we haven't made the jump yet to standarize on controllogix platform, we was VERY close...
Now with the release of ML 1100, it's worth a look, and might get us what we are looking for to stay with Logix family. I wonder if they are considering adding online programming to ML 1500....
Think about the marketing ploy here for a second. Why would AB release a lower ML 1100 with online programming, and not the ML 1500? Maybe they thought there are too many other PLCs in the ML 1100 class that have online programming and they are losing business. I think they held off as long as they could to get us to jump ship to the controllogix platform and did not give ML 1500 online programming to bait us. That's my IMHO.
Again, why on earth would ML 1100 have online, and not ML 1500? I think so they could protect the Compact Logix product, so they could get more engineer houses "O.E.M.s" like me, to switch over just for the online programming because certainly it's worth it especially commissioning a new OEM machine.
| QUOTE (Ken Moore @ May 21 2005, 05:59 AM) |
| Got this from my local AB rep., may or maynot be factual. |
Wow, this is awesome.
I wasn't in the office when my AB rep came in and told the rest of the guys so I missed all the "LOW" down...
Thanks Ken!
| QUOTE (mjrx @ May 20 2005, 06:37 PM) |
| Thats somewhere between a Micrologix 1000 & Micrologix 1200, or a fraction of the power of a Mitsubishi FX2N. |
Well, according to what is described here, I would rather compare it to FX1S, not even FX1N.
In such comparison it even shines.
| QUOTE (Ken Moore @ May 21 2005, 05:59 AM) |
| Price is rumored to be in the $550-$600 range. |
And what is rumoured price for software?
I think you need RSLogix500 version 6.4 to program and sorry I haven't price software.
Bob O.
Bob O.
Without getting into a marketing debate, here's a couple of details I'd like to add:
The RSLogix 500 Starter edition ($495, Sergei) will support online editing for the 1100E controller only. Today, the Starter edition does not support online editing even for the controllers that have it.
The EtherNet/IP port is only for messaging. It will not run remote I/O on Ethernet. This controller is still a MicroLogix !
The ML1100E is a little slower than its cousin the 1200. It's a completely different operating system than the SLC-5/02-based MicroLogix controllers, so it lacks the logic processing speed of the 1200 and 1500. I think the HSC feature is identical to the 1200.
Is the 1500 next in line for another CPU ? I'd love to see one, but so far the MicroLogix group is working hard to get this one out the door.
The RSLogix 500 Starter edition ($495, Sergei) will support online editing for the 1100E controller only. Today, the Starter edition does not support online editing even for the controllers that have it.
The EtherNet/IP port is only for messaging. It will not run remote I/O on Ethernet. This controller is still a MicroLogix !
The ML1100E is a little slower than its cousin the 1200. It's a completely different operating system than the SLC-5/02-based MicroLogix controllers, so it lacks the logic processing speed of the 1200 and 1500. I think the HSC feature is identical to the 1200.
Is the 1500 next in line for another CPU ? I'd love to see one, but so far the MicroLogix group is working hard to get this one out the door.
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