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  1. Let me start off by saying that I have 36 plus year of experience with Industrial Automation and Robotics and take great exception to the sensationalism expressed in these headlines.  Please allow me to rant and hopefully save another young engineer from a similiar mishap. https://www.foxnews.com/us/robot-attacked-tesla-engineer-at-texas-factory https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/business/tesla-factory-worker-attacked-by-robot-which-dug-claws-into-back-arm/ Websters tells us that an attack is "a belligerent or antagonistic action".  Such action is by definition not possible by a non-sentient piece of automation equipment. The American Industry Standard for Robotics has been ANSI-RIA 15.06 and it clearly states that anyone entering the working envelope of a robot must posess the Teach Pendant or Alternate Disconnect Means at all times.   Now reading the articles it appears that this was a multi-robot cell as the "engineer was programming two other robots in the cell."  Thus if his work did not involve the Third Robot it should have been under Lockout-Tagout_Try per OSHA 1910.147.  Had that been the case this catastrophe would not ahve occurrred.   If the Third Robot needed to be under power then it's pendant or disconnect should have been in the control of the Enginner and the 3rd robot limited to slow speed allowing for stopping when the errant action occurred. There is another possibility I would mention, something malfunctioned in the controls design and the safeties the Engineer thought he had, did not operate as intended.  The designer in this case will need to explain what happened. In closing , let me point out this incident occurred in 2021 and this is 2023 almost 2024 and we're just hearing about it.  If the Industry really wants to get better we'll "Fail Forward" and teach other robot users what actually went wrong here and make sure others don't have the same mishap.  That Mr. Musk would be a world class response. 
  2. Hi All, I need access to a the Safety function blocks within a safety CPU using sysmac studio on a machine we are upgrading.. Is there a generic password available to gain access? Best Regards, Paul  
  3. Mitsubishi safety relay

    Hello guys! A would like to set up a new inverter for my existing machine. I wanna follow the recomandation about the safety wiring. The only problem is I need one more, Z safety output. I checked, there is official expansion unit, and it says I have to only connect the EA, EB, EG, and EP terminals ? Do I have to connect again the X0, COM0 ; X1, COM1 terminals, because I want actually the same inputs, just I need one more safety relay output. I attached picture about it, thanks ahead. 
  4. Hello group, Is it possible to copy the data string from a 1734-IB8S to a datatype such as an INT or DINT? When setting up the I/O with a Safety PLC, the discrete I/O is setup within the Safety Program but it's contained within the program itself. To utilize the same I/O points in a Continuous task requires inserting and remapping the I/O points to essentially the same tags. If the I/O data could be moved/copied to a global datatype within the Safety Program, it seems like it would reduce any redundancy in the Continuous tasks.   Anyone done anything like that/ Suggestions?
  5. Hello,  I am using Omron’s safety G7SA to relay 24 volt line. But the strange thing happening is that, one relay’s output is only 5 voltage, even the relay is on. I exchanged relays, it remains the same. Maybe the base socket is problematic?  Or is this just G7SA failure? 5v (exactly 4.96v) is strange. Please give me some advice.   Many thanks in advance.   Ting    
  6. I have a question regarding hazardous zone design. My control cabinet will be in safe area but I need to have e-stop and safety limit switch located in hazardous area, Div 1 Zone 1. I am assuming that I can use zener barriers or isolators between the field devices and safety relay. I just wonder if the safety relay will function properly with barriers in between? Also do I have to use 24VDC safety relay for this application? I don't know what voltage/current is present on the terminals connecting to safety devices.
  7. Hi. I have been up, down left and right in sysmac looking for the safety cpu's to add. If i open a project that has these devices, "Safety CPU device" shows in their toolbox window, while my project that does not have any safety added (trying to), does not have the "Safety CPU device" in toolbox. Any idea how to get it to show up so i can add the SCPU?  
  8. So im looking for recommendations on a safety PLC application, and I'd like some advice. So the addiction is zero motion detection, were using a 5069-L306ERMS2, 5069-IB8S, 5069-OBV8S. What id like to know if its feasible and safe. Can a zero speed detection code be written and safe in a PLC? I mean you can buy a zero speed detection safety relay, and two generic sensors , one PNP, and one NPN, and its just watching the pulses to happen in a predetermined manor and that both transition in the correct manor and that they both stop. So why or why not do this in a PLC? Any advice on how to do it, and considerations or advice?  What are peoples thoughts and or advice?
  9. Hello. We are looking for a safety scanner that has CIP safety(Ethernet IP) or fSoE (Safety over etherCAT) that is combability with sysmac and NX102 cpu. There is a lot of safety scanners on the market that support CIP safety and fSoE and I have tried to load in both EDS  and ESI files into sysmac with no succes. Of course the best option would be that OS32C safety scanner from Omron themselves would have build in support for Cip safety at the moment it only support ethernetIP to read out data for diagnostics.   Is there anyone that is running a safety scanner with sysmac with CIP safety or fSoE ?  If you do I would be very happy to receive the brand from the safety scanner manufacture.   /Best regards.
  10. Hi guys,  Can someone explain me what is the difference between SS1 and SS2 instruction ? I read the help but its not so helpful for me.  THank you so much.
  11. Hi,  Can someon help me with the following question. Like what makes a Kinetix 6000 drive a Guarded drive ? What type of safety stuff can you set to make it more safe.  Is it some parameter ? I am bit confused, by the manual. Should I active it in the PLC program or how ? Or it is some setting like a safe speed or torque.  I would really appreciate any help. Thank you so much ahead.  Have a great day, thanks for the reading.
  12. Hello guys!  Im using RS Logix 5000.  Can someone explain me what is the difference between when a servo is shutdown or disabled ?  I read the help but it says the same. I can assume it like when its shutdown, there is inside some circuit which is not allow the 3 phase for the drive.  Disabled is that when it have the 3 phase but nothing can happen ? Is there any difference with the break ? Like when its shutdown it can rotate until its slow down by itself or the break will be active ?  I tried to uplod a pic but it was not succesful. When you open a servo axis properties and you choose the Fault actions tab. You can find there these settings.    Thanks a lot. 
  13. Hi. I would like to ask that like you guys are when using a kinetix servo motor what type of safety conditions are possible ? I found a fault actions label. Is there anything else like between the parameters or so ? Thanks ahead. 
  14. Safety PLC R08SFCPU

    Good day Guys I have been working with Mits for a while but i am new to the GX works 3 setupp. We are looking at using R08SFCPU PLC with a RJ71GF11-T2 for CC-Link IE Field in order to do safety. No i think i understand the normal IO on this device but the safety i just cant get to a point to understand what is happening. When i try to address it SA\X0.... then it says it is invalid. Does anyone have an idea how to do the setup for safety or a manual that describes a bit in detail.   Thanks
  15. Hello All,    I have had no luck sorting through Pilz datasheets on this CPU to find cable / software to connect/upload the program. Any insight?   We are upgrading this to the CPU 4000 series - it will use DeviceNet. Will this node number / memory allocation be setup within the 'PSS 4000 Firmware' software? Where do I find a guide for this?   Thank you.
  16. Hi everyone, I have an annoying fault on my Kinetix 5700 drive: M01-Safety Feedback. I know this fault is generated by  the SFX instruction in my Safety program that sets tag: "Axis.SFXFault" to 1. The problem is that the instruction is NOT in Fault (Fault code 1 = no fault). This error occurred after Safety encoder 843ES lost it's IP address. I used Bootp to set it gain. And reset the SFX instruction. I can see the encoder in studio 5000 rev 32.12 running and ok.  Does anyone encountered this problem? How can I clear the fault?   Thanks
  17. Safety PLC R08SFCPU

    Good day Guys I have been working with Mits for a while but i am new to the GX works 3 setupp. We are looking at using R08SFCPU PLC with a RJ71GF11-T2 for CC-Link IE Field in order to do safety. No i think i understand the normal IO on this device but the safety i just cant get to a point to understand what is happening. When i try to address it SA\X0.... then it says it is invalid. Does anyone have an idea how to do the setup for safety or a manual that describes a bit in detail.   Thanks
  18. Everyone, Using a Q series Mitsu PLC interfacing with a M1P Pilz Safety PLC - and only receiving 32 bits from the SPLC. I have the station setup in GXWorks2 as a device station (occupying 4 stations). I am receiving only the 1st station of the 4 designated. (It is node 9 in the snippet) Any tips on this? (First time posting btw) Thanks, Elliot
  19. Hello,  I got Allen-Bradley  1769-L36ERMS, AB Powerflex 755 and 20-750-S3 safety card.  According to: https://rockwellautomation.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/946912 „"There is NO Integrated Motion / CIP Motion support with 20-750-S3 safety card” so I want to run hardwired emergency shutdown system.  How can I configure this module with safety card in PLC?
  20. Hello, I need to make an ethernet communication Siemens S7-300 <> Omron G9SP. The HW of the Siemens that i us are CPU 315 2DP and CP 343-1 Lean. I did try to follow the Omron manuals Z922 and Z924, but faced with some problems. First of all in Z924 there is no complete HW configuration of Siemens (communication configuration is missing). Also, formats of messages differ in both manuals. Maybe there is an Simatic Step 7 project example, that i could open with Simatic Step 7 manager to do a deeper investigation, or maybe somebody has a lot more experience in this case? Thank you in advance.   WBR @rturas
  21. Mitsubishi Safety PLC

    Hi everyone.  Is it possible use mitsubishi safety plc as logic solver for fire and gas detection system  on the plant ? 
  22. Good day, We are using Guardlogix 1756-72s controllers for our ESD system. We created safety add-on instruction in RSLogix5000 v20 and wanted to test it using RSLogix Emulate 5000, however we are getting an error that safety add-on instructions are not supported in standard controllers. Is there a way to test safety code using Emualate or Softlogix?
  23. Writing access to Safety CPU

    Hello. I tried to read/write from/to safety cpu (QS001) over MC protocol. I managed to read from cpu devices but i couldn't write to any safety cpu device. It was possible to write data to Q series plc (Q02HCPU in my example) with MC protocol. I am searching any method of writing to safety cpu (QS001). If anyone could this before? And are there any settings in GX Developer (GX works) for access to writing to QSCPU? P.S: As known it's possible to read/write from/to Q series PLC with MX Component. It's also available reading from QSCPU with MX component. But cannot write to safety cpu with MX component (written in Mx component manual). Thanks.
  24. Several years ago before I arrived at my company, an integrator came in to do the automation on our system. They used a Controllogix 1756-L61S for the safety portion of the project. Apparently, when they completed the job they did not provide the source code with comments, safety password, etc. for anything and it got ugly between our company and theirs. In other words, they would not provide it if we went back to ask them. Allen Bradley has told us that we can not make any alterations now to the safety logic because we do not have the password that was used to create it. And they said there is no longer a master password that you could use like in previous controllers. Does anybody know of any workarounds for this? Or have heard of anything that might possibly work?
  25. Hello everybody, I'm designing a safety system for a HV power supply. The idea is to use a series of 2 contactors to supply power to the system controlled by a safety PLC. So, it is a typical application. The problem is that the power supply and the contactors are are installed on HV platform, isolated from ground, where the PLC is installed. I think the only possibility is to use an optic fiber link. Does any body know is there is any way to connect a contactor to a PLC output using an optic fiber link, without compromise the cyclical checking performed by the safety module (as I understand, the outputs are continuously check in order to detect wire breaking). The alternative that I have is to use a distributed IO system installed on the platform, connected with a Ethernet Optic Fiber to the PLC: for example using a simens S7-400 PCL with a IM467FO modules (on ground) and a ET200M system with a IM153-2FO module on the platform. But I wonder if there is something more simple and cheaper. Thanks!