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  1. UL508A and Wire Sizing

    Thanks for your replay jimtech67
  2. Hi All, I am pretty new at electrical design for PLC control panels. We are a UL508A shop, so this is the code I refer to most. Something struck me as odd when I was trying to size wire for this control panel. UL508A 28.3.1 says this: The required size of the field wiring terminal shall not be less than 14 AWG (2.1 mm2) and shall be determined by: a) Calculating the required ampacity per 28.3.2 – 28.3.6; and b) Determining the minimum field wiring conductor size from Table 28.1 having a corresponding ampacity that is equal to or greater than the required ampacity from (a). How can the minimum wire size be #14 AWG? We use #16 AWG for wire to the PLC modules? Are we breaking code or is there something I am missing? Also, understanding code books can be difficult. Is there a website or place I can go to get a plain English translation? I feel like I will read a sentence over and over again to try to understand what they are saying, and feel like there's is a much easier way to say it than the way it is written. For example, "28.3.1 b" ……...what is it really saying?  
  3. Allen Bradley - Point IO - Power Distribution

    Ken, thanks for your reply. The selection guide really helps. Someone else created this system in the Integrated Architecture Builder utility, therefore I didn't have to figure out the calculations. I have one final question. In the image I have attached, it shows 12/24vdc coming into the ADN, points 4 and 6. The dark solid lines leaving ADN, points 5 and 7, I assume that I can hard wire from those points to the next expansion power supply EP24VDC? And I assume the dashed lines are the internally connected bus?   PLC_POINT IO_SELECTION GUIDE.pdf
  4. Allen Bradley - Point IO - Power Distribution

    Thank you for your help
  5. Allen Bradley - Point IO - Power Distribution

    oK, makes sense. When you said "daisy Chaining" - did you mean hard wire daisy chain or internal bus wire daisy chain?
  6. I am definitely a newbie in the world of PLC's. So I hope this doesn't sound like a dumb question. I do the electrical design for PLC's and have only done this for a few short months. I am currently working with a Point IO PLC. This is the first one I've seen. Because of the qty. of input and output modules, we had to add 1734-FPD and 1734-EPAC to boost the power. Easy enough, I get that. I bring power to the 1734-AENTR.....then, do I hard wire to the next module, or are the next adjoining input/outs connected view the internal power bus? Same question goes for the 1734-FPD and 1734-EPAC. I understand to bring power to those devices, but do I hard wire to the first module or is it automatically connected via internal power bus? I have done my research before I posted on this site. I think some of the installation manuals for these devices are conflicting., I think that's why I'm so confused. Thoughts? Does anyone know of a good trusted manual for such a question. Thanks in advance
  7. I am definitely a newbie in the world of PLC's. So I hope this doesn't sound like a dumb question. I do the electrical design for PLC's and have only done this for a few short months. I am currently working with a Point IO PLC. This is the first one I've seen. Because of the qty. of input and output modules, we had to add 1734-FPD and 1734-EPAC to boost the power. Easy enough, I get that. I bring power to the 1734-AENTR.....then, do I hard wire to the next module, or are the next adjoining input/outs connected view the internal power bus? Same question goes for the 1734-FPD and 1734-EPAC. I understand to bring power to those devices, but do I hard wire to the first module or is it automatically connected via internal power bus? I have done my research before I posted on this site. I think some of the installation manuals for these devices are conflicting., I think that's why I'm so confused. Thoughts? Does anyone know of a good trusted manual for such a question. Thanks in advance