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anyone know where i can find a lss to syswin utility. use to have a utility file, that i think i got from omron about 5-6 years ago, but now can not find it. have 6 older machines that we are bringing out of storage to ship to thailand, and as you would know, management wants to get them to run and then ship, without upgrading the controls. They have the older c20 cpu12 plcs. thanks

Thanks Ken, finally sunk in my old brain after i looked at it again.  

Have a machine with a allen bradley kinetics 300 servo and a compact logix plc.  Machine is working but trying to understand the user units and scaling a little better. Motor has a pulley mounted that is 1.875 inches diameter. For one rev of the motor it moves a linear slide 5.890 inches ( approx 1.875 8 Pi). In the program there is a explanation that the inverse of this was taken 1/5.8904862 = 0.1697653.  The value of 0.1697653 is what is entered in the Servo controller through motion view as the USER UNITS.   In the program the operator will enter a value that the linear slide to move to. For example, move 10 inches then they enter a 10 in the HMI.  In the plc code there is a MOV command that Moves the value entered by the operator into a Tag for the servo that is defined as Servo_Drive:o.command position.  When the servo runs it moves the exact distance that is entered.  All of this works.   In the servo under Index0 there is the following.  Index type = Incremental,  Move =Trapezoidal, Distance = 1.0000 user units, Register distance = NA, Dwell = 0, Velocity = 1.000 - user units/sec, Accel = 10.00 - user units/sec2,  Decel = 10.00 - user units/sec2,  Next Index = 0, Action = Stop. The part i dont fully understand, with the above settings and the user unit set to value of 9.1697653 how does the drive know to move 10 inches when a value of 10 is placed in the Servo_Drive:o.command postion. Could someone help explain in a way i could follow? I called AB tech support but no real explanation. They just referred back to the servo manual and can not find anything in the manual to explain in a better understandable way.   Thanks

Question Just finished a couple of projects where I used a Omron cqm1h plc which you can use a absolute encoder card in, and connected it to a Omron Absolute Grey Scale Encoder. With some help from some folks in the Omron Forum, was finally able to figure out how to take the input and convert it and scale it between 0-360, which represented one complete revolution of the machine, and then turn on items such as glue etc. at certain angles that the fixers can set from a operator screen. In the last few weeks, Have also just finished doing some press machines where I used the micrologics 1200 plc, and in the process of completing the projects have gotten where I really like using the software. I have a couple of more projects coming up ( packaging), where I again will need to use a absolute encoder connected to a main drive shaft, and am considering using a micrologics 1200 or 1500 plc. and was hoping that maybe someone has already done this with a AB PLC and absolute encoder and could possible suggest the best way to accomplish this. [b]Yes, I am asking for a possible sample program and some advice on which encoder to use etc. A good example can save a lot of time, and thanks to some folks who posted some advice when I was trying to figure out how to do this with a Omron was able to complete it in a fraction of the time it would have took. I have a couple of weeks before I have to actually spec out the components and the necessary cost on this project, so I will actually be able to order a encoder, PLC etc., and connect it all together and test on the bench, before I have to commit to which PLC components will be use. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

I am looking at controlling the temperature of some aluminum molds that we use on our equipment that currently have fuji temperature controllers and j type thermocouples. This setput works great, but our Director is now wanting us to look at using the plc to do this since he saw this at a trade show being done. If i understand correctly if you set the card up as Scaled for PID then with a J type thermocouple which has a temperature range of -346 degrees F up to 2192 degrees F then -346 would equal 0 and 2192 would equal 16383. In our current machines we have a fuji controller going to a solid state relay that has a 4-28vdc input and the fuji is set up as PID Control. If i take the value in from the thermocouple and use that in a PID to control the temperature then with the micrologixs analog output cards you have 0-10v or 4-20ma, what would i have to replace the solid state relay with? Is there a solid state relay that will work on a 4-20ma signal or 0-10vdc? I may be way out in left field on this. has anyone done this and if so could you share some insight and let me know if i am way out in left field or at least half way thinking right. if you have a sample code you would share that would be very helpful. thanks

Thanks. The main reason is he is convinced that it can be done cheaper with a plc since the machine builder told him they could do it with Siemens cheaper. He is brain washed into now thinking Siemens is the way and is cheaper than Fuji controllers or better than Allen Bradley since this machine builder told him that Siemens and temp control with the plc is the way everyone in the world does it. Bottom line is he thinks he knows just enough about controls to be able to decide what we should use which caused a lot of headaches. I was looking at using a solid state realy that has a 4-20ma input. Continental is the one we use with the Fuji and they make one that uses a 4-20ma input. The reason i was looking at doing this is only because a few years ago i did a autoclave machine that used a 4-20ma steam valve to control temperature and with a PID in a micrologix 1200 that project works very well.

File Name: Allen Bradley Micrologix 1400 and maples display File Submitter: kcor File Submitted: 27 Mar 2012 File Category: PLC Sample Code Thought i would put these in the sample code section since when i was searching i did not find much. The mrplc_post is the micrologix 1400 program and the mrplc_post2 is the maples HMI5043T display program which was created with the maples easybuilder 5000 software. Click here to download this file

Finally got a chance to work with the maples display and completed the project on the bench. Have to admit, really like the maples now that i have had a couple of days to work with it. I have attached the files. The maples file i had to zip, so you will need to unzip it and use the maples software Easybuilder 5000 mrplc_post.RSS mrplc_post.zip

I found this thread by doing a search for maples and if possible could use some advice myself. I have inherited a project that a micrologix 1100 and a maples HMI5043t was orderd for. I have experience with the 1100, but none with a maples. The programming has never been done, but the engineer that was working on this has most of the panel wired. The maples is connected to the 1100 with a serial cable and I do know that the plan was to program the maples and the 1100 using the ethernet ports. Here is where I am confused at the moment 1. To program the maples display with my PC would i use a cross over cable like what i use when i program a micrologix 1100 when not going through a switch? 2. I have reviewed some of the documentation today, but to be honest not exactly sure how to set up the maples to communicate to the plc using the serial port but program the maples using the ethernet port with my pc. Was hoping someone on here has a lot of experience with these units and could possbily post some advice or a sample program. Thanks for any suggestions.

have about 20 machines that have these units as well as the older omron c40 plc and a c200 expansion unit. Looking at replacing the controls with a new omron plc, and wondering which of the omron cam units would replace the h8pr-24. Looked at doing it in the plc, but have a lot of items that turn on for example at 340 degrees and off at 15 degrees and the fixer that work on these machines are used to the cam units that are also to control a lot of the operations of the equipment.

The encoder we are using is a e6f-ab3c-c360

Have a lot of the older Omron NT20 and NT20s displays on some equipment. Getting harder to get these now, and we have about 200 of these units total and had a unit to fail last week, but able to pull one off of another machine that been put in storage, and it was the last one. Is there a way to convert the older Omron NT20s programs that I created using the Nt software? Also, which NS model would be the closes replacement for a NT20s? Thanks

Thanks for info, what I am looking at doing is replacing a nt20s with a new NS series. Also looking at another project and looking at using a NS on it as well. I know this is display forum, but now wondering if the Omron Cqm1h series is considered a obsolete PLC, by obsolete, I mean that it may still be availiable but being phased out with the newer line of plc's. Also, is the NT series of displays also something that would be considered obsolete now as well. Thanks, when I get back into the office will try the conversion in a couple of weeks

looked into doing this a couple of years ago, but the company i work for got into moving most of our equipment off shore so got put on a back burner. Well now that the equipment is there, this has come up again. I hope someone can lead me in a direction. I have a test omron cqm1h plc that i keep in the lab. Is there a way that i could connect to it and use some type of utility to pull info out of the plc and place in a excel type database, just for testing. We have looked at quite a few scada packages, but been asked to take a look and see if this is something that could be done with a kepware type driver and some type of free utility. I hope this makes sense, thanks.

Have a question that I hope someone may have a good answer to. Have a machine that is a dryer that fabric is feeding through at speeds from 0 to about 70 yards per minute. We have been brainstorming about would it be possible to have the fabric as it exits the dryer run across some type of sensor that would measure the moisture in the sensor and also have some type of infrared temperature sensor to detect the temp of the fabric as it exits. Based on the moisture and the temp. determine how fast to run the fabric. For example, you enter a set point to run 40 yards per minute and maintain a moisture of 4%. and use the signals from the sensor to control a pid that would be used to tune the setpoint, plus or minus a percentage of the speed setpoint to maintain the 4% moisture. Does this sound something that would be possible, and if so, any suggestions, ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Thanks for replys, i have downloaded peakhmi and experimented with it. I do have the cx and used the dde before, but what our mangers are looking for is some way to just start internet explorer and select a web page shortcut on the desktop and be able to view some type of graphical data. I have no experience with VB or with opc, kepware or any of that type of software, but trying to learn as much as possible. Hopefully will be able to possibly learn enough about vb and create something, but just like a lot of you guys, betwen allen bradley, omron, idec,siemens,mitsubishi,Setex,modicon, and all of the hmi that go with them, have a hard enough time just trying to stay up to speed with all of these software packages. I idea, if someone was to ever create a VB for dummy's that want to pull data out of different brand plc's and create a web page, man i bet that would sell like hot cakes. The info on this site has saved my butt many times, so thanks for any suggestion, we have never done any type of data collection in our plants and even thought about remote connection, because you could at one time get in a car and drive about 4 hours in any direction and get to the plants, now you have to on a plane and fly for half a day.

Thanks, i downloaded the demo for the ab micrologix 1000, seems pretty good. A little confused on what you would have to do in order to start internet explorer and view the demo application running from within internet explorer. I have seen there are some videos out there on youtube, but we are blocked from that at work. Could someone possibly just guide me in the right direction. thanks

thanks for suggestions, what i am up against is a manager who knows nothing about controls. Have looked at indusoft and some others similar to that and was looking at going that route a couple of years ago before we started moving all the equipment. He has asked to see if there is some type of software that could be used to access a plc, regardless if it is omron or ab or whatever and pull data out of that into some type of file that could then be used to create a web page, now here is the kicker, he thinks you should be able to do this without spending any money. Its a challenge, but open to any suggestions. I had suggested the cx server lite and have it possible to have it running on a server and pull data out of a plc into a excel file, then possibly use the excel tags to create web page info. But to be honest, that is out of my level of ability at the moment, which is why i was excited about indusoft, but sorta hard to explain it to someone who has no idea and has made up his mind that we should be able to do it as a test with freeware type software. Believe me, any advice would be great, i have no experience at VB, but going to purchase a VB for dummy type book and try to learn as time allows. thanks

Does anyone know if there is a manual that tells what the standard should be for wire colors used in panels, etc. I always use Red as +24 blk as -24 and I use blue or yellow for signal wires from input cards to output cards. The reason I ask, is I met one of our electrical folks from one of our sister company's today and he has always used Blue as +24 White as -24 ( because he refers to it as neutral), tried to explain to him that -24v is black, except in europe it is Brown +24 blue -24 black -siganal Thanks

Have a question Have two cx programmer files. One of the files has block, network, i/0 comments etc. How can I take the file that does not have any of the comments and import all of the comments into that file. Have tried, but must being doing something wrong thanks

have a plant in dominican republic that has a omron cj1g plc controlling a waste water plant. Have been able to go online through our company network with no problems. Now for some reason that I confused about, i can ping the ip, but can not connect with cx programmer. I have attached some screen shots, any ideas would be apprecitated. There is not one person in the plant that has the omron software. Could it have something to do with the port 9600, have read somewhere where some firewalls will not allow connections. As far as I know, nothing has changed in the plant and IT confirmed that the ip has not changed. Confused, have tried all afternoon thanks, Document1.pdf

Was able to get my communication issue solved today. A omron rep named Mike Walsh was in today to demo his omron drives and showed him my problem. Was able to ping plc in dominican republic but not able to connect with my pc anymore. Found out a couple of things. For some reason cx programmer was using the last numbers of my wireless network connections. Disabled the wireless connnections and changed some setting in CX. I have attached a file with some screen shots with a explanation of what we changed at the end. Maybe it will help someone else. Was very impressed with Mike Walsh and his level of knowledge. wasteWaterConnections.pdf

Thanks for advice. I connect to the plc, or at least I was directly through our company network. I just plug my laptop into a switch on my desk that is connected our company network and go online with all of our equipment. Have contacted someone in our IT group to find out if the port 9600 is causing a problem, read somewhere where some firewalls may block that port after updating. Also have a co-worker who has cx on his pc, and he can ot connect either. He can ping it as well, or at least we are pinging something. According to IT in the plant in dominican republic that is the correct IP, they would have no way of changing it.

1762_RawValues.PDF1762_RawValues.PDFI have used the 1762-IF2OF2 analog modules in the micro 1200 series plc, and now looking at using the 1100 on a project due to the fact that it has the ethernet port. This project will involve using the built in analog inputs on the 1100. The resolution of the input is 10 bits or 1024, 0-1023. When I did a 1200 project I used the following information in the file that I have attached that I got from ab web site. Would the raw value that you use for the 1100 be 0-1023?