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I just came across this topic as I was looking into it again now that I'm back working on a Omron project. It has an XML import on the tools menu but is greyed out (Version 1.54). Looking at the update notes there is this from version 1.50 which makes it sound like it's still there. It is the only mention of XML since introduced in version 1.30. Maybe there is an optional tool that needs installed or something? I would reach out to your Omron rep if still interested. https://www.ia.omron.com/product/tool/454/sysmac-studio/e1_doc.html Solved the problem that the IEC61131-10 XML Import function might not import an XML file when a comma (,) was used as a decimal point in the Windows Location settings.

Good idea. Yes, exporting the alarms to an xml file is the only export option. It's been awhile since I played around with python, I'll look into that on my free time.

Thanks pturmel. That is what I assumed and I'm not surprised Rockwell has not shared how to access the alarms. At least this is a small project with maybe 100 alarms but most of the messages are tied to tag Descriptions. So it will take extra work to get the real messages both for Ignition and translation. Rockwell doesn't even let you copy and paste the alarms.

Hello, There doesn't seem to be any new discussions on this topic. How did it go for you Tinkerman?  I didn't know this tag based alarm was a thing until I found it being used in a retrofit project I'm working on. It does not seem to be very flexible, at least in the versions my client uses Logix 31 and Designer 7. It appears the only format to export the alarm table is XML, no option to export as Excel or csv file. Also the HMI seems to force the use of the alarm manager in the PAC as I'm not seeing anyway to manually configure tags like normal. I have 2 issues this is causing on this retrofit.  1) The machine is going from a USA plant to a Mexico plant so they want Spanish. Logix has a language feature but it only exports to a text file which I don't see how it could be translated as it's unformatted. 2) They want the PAC tags and alarms to be accessible for Ignition. I don't think Ignition will be able to read these Rockwell Alarms. So unless I find a solution I may have to have 2 sets of identical alarms. The build in for the HMI and a separate one for Ignition. And some workaround to show Spanish alarm messages I'm not sure. I'm with Joe, I always found it easier to do my own alarms, alarm table in Excel so it can easily be imported into the HMI, added to documentation or whatever.

Hello Harianta, I've ran into this before. For some reason the new versions of TIA do not support projects from versions older than 13. You have to install version 13 to open the version 11 file and convert it. Then version 16 should be able to open it. Or you could ask your Siemens rep to do the conversion as installing version 13 could be a hassle if you only need it once. A quick google search returned these results: TIP: TIA V14: Opening V10.5, V11, V12, V13 projects. ttps://support.industry.siemens.com/tf/ww/en/posts/tip-tia-v14-opening-v10-5-v11-v12-v13-projects/155711/ or video: Siemens TIA Portal HMI/PLC tutorial - Upgrading project to TIA Portal V15  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWFGcn0RdpU

Yes Windows 10 does take more space but not nearly as bad as Rockwell. We had ran out of space on our Rockwell Win 10 VM when it was allocated for 100 GB. I did not have any luck expanding the VM drive so I created a new Win 10 VM allocated for up to 150 GB. The base Win 10 VM takes 10 GB of space but that is after running disk cleanup with system updates save points removed and running VM disk cleanup. Current sizes: Omron VM 36 GB Rockwell VM 50 GB

Crossbow, I have not tried VirtualBox, we have used VM for many years. Thanks Michael, all previous versions of Studio have worked fine so I assume Omron must have switched to DirectX 11 with the Studio 1.40 release. Chelton, have you ran Disk Cleanup on the VM? I've noticed the VMs tend to grow over time. You can also set it to automatically run disk cleanup on shutdown but that can take a while and it is not give a clear indication that is what it is doing.

Hello Crossbow. I'm using the 64bit version. I'm hoping this is just a bug and they release a hotfix soon. That sucks Chelton, I agree it's always a good idea to make a snapshot before doing any software updates. I don't always remember to make a snapshot but I do make a zip archive of a cleaned VM every so often for myself and co-workers to start from for both Omron & Rockwell separately as well as a base Windows 10 VM.

As the title says, Studio 1.40 crashes if I try to run it in VMWare Workstation (version 14.1.8). I had to disable the "Accelerate 3D graphics" option in VMWare in order to install this upgrade, this has never been an issue before on earlier versions of Studio. I thought I could then re-enable it but this causes Studio to crash as soon as you start it up. I've not spent any time running it with 3D graphics disabled to know if it can run stable. Or if having it disabled causes problems with Studio or other software on my Omron VM. Has anyone else experienced this issue or have any insight?  

I'm sorry about your luck, that's some really primitive software. Why not use a virtual machine with Windows XP for your legacy Mits PLC software? I recently worked on a small project that use Mits GX Works 2, someone else already had a Windows 7 VM so I started with it. I made the mistake of updating Windows and then GX Works would not even start.

Hello, I'm no Siemens expert but I'm currently remoted into a Siemens controlled machine through an EWon as well. I'm using TIA V15 connected to a couple of S7-1500 PLC and several Comfort HMIs. I have the same thing, accessible devices only shows the local network and I don't see any options to have it search the network I'm connected to through the EWon. TIA can't go online to the HMIs either but I'm able to download to them. If you want to go online with the HMI to monitor and control the HMI remotely you just need to select Online/Simulation/Start. Sorry I don't have any solutions to you exact issues but I hope that helps a little.

Joe, I'm no Siemens expert but I know not everything shows up in cross reference in TIA. Even simple things like being on a contact of a timer's Q bit does not show the timer. In TIA it's mostly possible to avoid using direct references to DB address. TIA is certainly a lot better than Step 7 classic with all the cretic addressing. You can still find them by doing a search for "DB2" in the entire project. In our last project for alarms we also set individual bits but they are part of a Structure with an array of INT so they can be cleared by the tag names and avoid the direct addressing that your French machine has.

Is this the newer Yaskawa motion controller which I don't believe is a true PLC or the really old legacy PLCs? Also on the Mitsubishi side there are different PLCs that use different software. MotionWorks is the software for the newer Yaskawa controllers: https://www.yaskawa.com/products/motion/machine-controllers/software-tools/motionworks-iec I do not know if there is a way to convert the code, I doubt it. You will likely have to convert it by hand. But you can use Excel to generate code for Mitsubishi and import it. So if you can export code from Yaskawa it would be possible to create something. But that may be more work depending on the volume of code you have to convert. Good luck.

The lack of a instruction to move or copy data regardless of data type has came back to bite me again. I have a good sized (100s of members) multi-tiered structure that collects data on production parts across 6 MAC which all works great. Now we want to send all that data to SQL for data collection. The problem is it appears you can only send a flat structure. Without an instruction to copy a block from the multi-tiered structure to the flat structure this leaves having to copy individual members one by one. One would think this would be the purpose of the MemCopy instruction but even it requires data types to match. All the member data types would actually match I just don't see a way to copy sections of the multi-tiered structure to the flat structure. Why is there not an instruction that can do a bit wise copy? There was a way in CxProgrammer and Rockwell can do it. Hopefully this will be added to Studio. Anyone know if IEC 61131-3 covers this?

I did a system recently with an NJ5 and 6 R-30iA Mate Controllers and used Ethernet/IP for all the communications to the robots. If the EDS PMCR uploaded does not work I have one from Fanuc that I can send you (I don't know how to attach it to this message).