From the information from Crossbow, I started looking. I found the 'Software Starter Kit', FX1S-14MR-ES/UL-K for $490.00. This came with software, cable and a simple plc that I didn't really need but it was basicly free. You can only purchase this kit once. I purchased GT-WORKS2-C1 for the HMI. I found the plc and software to be great. I think the HMI software was a little off but the most important thing I didn't like is the HMI is supported with Windows CE. Sorry, but any machine that is controlled with a program that runs under Windows - sucks. Windows is still not up to what it should be when it comes to controlling a machine. So you may not agree --- My question is - How often does your computer crash because of Windows?